Sunday, September 27, 2015

wk7 - LIMA and CARR – TED Talk - connection

In a topic-driven, well-organized, and well-substantiated paragraph, make a connection between Lima’s TED Talk and Carr’s argument in “Three: Tools of the Mind” (pp. 39-49). In your paragraph response, use summary, paraphrase, and quotations—from each source.


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11 comments:

  1. Gabrielle Tallman
    Professor Kirk
    ENG 1003
    1 Thursday 2015
    Summarize, Connect, and Quote: Carr & Lima
    Technology has influenced the way people organize and visualize information. Lima and Carr both realize that technology is taking its toll on the human brain and history. Simple creations will turn into addicting pieces of metal, as Carr sees it, and the tree metaphor has turned into a web, as Lim would put it. During his TED Talk, Lima says that humans have desires for order, balance, and symmetry. That's probably why humans are so obsessed with clocks and other new technologies. Lima claims that, "...gene networks have similar form as IP addresses." This is similar to Carr's conclusion of thinking isn't what it used to be and that's because of technology.

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  2. Austin Bennett
    Professor Kirk
    ENG 1003
    1 Thursday 2015
    Compare and Connect: Carr and Lima
    Like maps that toddlers draw, organizational methods change throughout development of the world. Lima tells about the transition from "trees" to "networks". Carr talks about the invention of clocks, and how they have shaped or been shaped by human development. As the time keeper evolved, so the daily regiments of normal lives became more precise. Both speakers point out the religious role in the changing of organization. Lima and Carr seem to agree that with the evolution of research, the known complexity of the brain and the complexity of certain technologies rise at the same rate.

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  3. Devante Wrenn
    Professor Kirk
    English 1003
    1 October 2015
    Lima and Carr
    In Lima’s speech he talks about the evolution of the networks and what kind of networks we used back then to now. He describes them as how back then they were simple but now they are more complex. We get attached to certain developments and our brain (the network) wants us to get use to it and use it. He basically says from back then to now that we evolve from simple things to complex. He uses the food chain as an example by showing the basic what is on the bottom and what is on the top of the food chain. Then on the next diagram he shows another food chain that is more complex and it has more species and is very detailed than the basic one. There were a lot more lines and species. In Carr’s chapter he says that technology today has taken over the technology back then. He used maps as an example and how we first started out with the basic paper map that we always had to look on it and find the roads. Now today we have gps which can speak to us and helps the same way as regular map, but it is newer. They both share the fact that the way technology and we as people have went from simple to complex. All we do is just expand and want to learn more. This could lead to be a bad or good thing depending on how we control technology and not let it control us.

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  4. Peter Cote
    Professor Kirk
    English 1003
    1 Oct. 2015
    Carr and Lima Connection
    Nicholas Carr argues that people’s minds are being shifted by technology, and Manuel Lima agrees with this because he believes that the internet has caused people to shift their thinking to adapt to technological advancements. Nicholas Carr explains that technology has “strengthened some neural circuits and weakened others, reinforced certain mental traits while leaving others to fade away.” (48) Although Carr states that some effects of technology are negative, he would agree that the internet has been beneficial in some ways. Carr explains that the internet has changed the way the mind thinks and processes information. Just like Carr, Lima states that the network “way of thinking is critical for us to solve many of the complex problems we are facing nowadays.” He explains that the internet has alternated the way the brain is working in a beneficial way. Lima looks at the positive side of the shifts technology has made, and he states that it has helped people with solving many problems that people would have a hard time solving themselves. Both Carr and Lima agree that the internet is causing changes to the way people think, but Carr differs slightly by saying not all these changes are for the greater benefit.

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  5. Logan Radwanski
    Professor Kirk
    English 1003
    1 October 2015
    Carr and Lima Connection
    With the introduction of the Network Carr and Lima both have noticed a shift from maps to the Net or trees to Networks as Carr and Lima put it. With the new technology of the Net it has caused a shift in the brain and its functions. All due to the growing influence of the Net on thinking, culture, and in a way has become a movement. Just as Carr tells us a by-product of the Net is, “The intellectual ethic is the message that a medium or other tool transmits into the minds and culture of its users.” (Carr 46) While Lima believes the Net has grown it’s influence to an art, a movement, and trend expressing how the Net is “a growing visual taxonomy”. The agreement about how the Net is affecting our brains differentiate is good or bad as Lima think these affects are benefitting it has created “a new way of thinking that is critical for us to solve many of the complex problem we are facing nowadays.” (Lima). Carr goes in the opposite direction as he believes the Net does have its benefits it’s hurting us more as “…how we find, store, and interpret information, how we direct our attention and engage our senses, how we remember and how we forget—have shaped the physical structure and workings of the human mind. Their use has strengthened some neural circuits and weakened others, reinforced certain mental traits while leaving others to fade away.” (Carr 48) For Carr thinks our usage of the Net is hurting the way we remember, think, and our brains functions. Also Lima states in his talk, “human knowledge is much more intricate and interdependent, just like a network” this statement shows how he is for Network usage as he think it makes our thinking better and it may be shifting our brains around some, it’s not hurting them negatively.

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  6. Carter Groomes
    Professor Kirk
    English 1003
    1 October 2015
    Carr and Lima
    In both of the readings one common theme was that in the beginning of “intellectual maturation” humans based knowledge off of one object. In Carr’s book, he used the “sun in the corner of the paper” as an example. In Lima’s TED talk he used tree maps and how ideas came from the base theme. As time moved on the tree diagrams evolved more accurate diagrams were invented. In relation to Carr’s chapter three, the clock became simplified but the size continued to get smaller. Both writers stated that maps and clocks positively impacted humans by changing the way we work and think. In summary, Carr and Lima both agree that the evolution of the human knowledge and technologies will continue to rise as an affect of each other.

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  7. Breanna Roper
    Professor Kirk
    English 1003
    1 October 2015

    The Similarities of Carr and Lima
    Manuel Lima and Nicholas Carr propose a similar argument that as technology evolves further, our brains our forced to evolve as well. Our thought processes change due to our reliance on the internet and all of the devices that are almost constantly available to us. Lima begins his speech by describing how initially we put information onto trees on paper, which has now advanced into what could be described as an electronic tree. The internet has its base and then branches out into hundreds, thousands, maybe even millions of different websites available with the click of a button. Carr describes that, "The Net's cacophony of stimuli short-circuits both conscious and unconscious thought, preventing our minds from thinking either deeply or creatively" (119). This sheds light on Carr's view of the internet, it is made very clear that he views our thinking patterns in result of our use of the net as negative. He feels that internet does more bad for society than it does good. Lima approaches the argument with a slightly differentiated view, yet similar. He agrees that our thinking has changed in response to technology and the internet, but he views it more positively than Carr.


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  8. Aidan Bish
    Professor Kirk
    SWU English 1003
    1 October 2015

    Lima and Carr
    Manuel Lima’s TED Talk revolves around the progression from using the tree as our primary organizational method to using the network; Carr would argue that this is not a simple change, but one that represents the whole of our thinking in the digital age. Lima is a data expert and historian. In his presentation, he traces examples of the classic tree method of organization - simple, linear, balanced - before introducing what is quickly replacing it: the network. The network, however, has the capacity to express much more detailed and accurate relationships. Lima asserts that “Networks really embody notions of decentralization, of interconnectedness, of interdependence. And this new way of thinking is critical for us to solve many of the complex problems we are facing nowadays, from decoding the human brain, to understanding the vast universe out there.” The concept of networks representing a new form of complex, non-linear thought is where his argument meets Nicholas Carr’s. Carr is an “internet intellectual”, a writer and a researcher deeply concerned with the internet’s impact on the way we think. In chapter three, “Tools of the Mind”, of his book The Shallows, he discusses how intellectual technologies such as organizational methods (those designed to enhance our mental abilities) have a great impact on society as a whole. They carry with them an intellectual ethic, or a “message that a medium or other tool transmits into the minds and culture of its users”. Byproducts of technologies, and of this effect, are often unforeseen by the designers and users. Although Lima finds network organization beautiful, Carr would see it as a visual representation of our society's movement away from linear thought. Thus, while Lima concludes with the Bruce Mau quote “When everything is connected to everything else, for better or for worse, everything matters”, Carr might wonder where this new concept will take us.

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  9. Kaylee Young
    Professor Kirk
    English 1003
    1 October 2015
    Lima-Carr-Comparison
    In the Ted talk, “A Visual History of Human Knowledge” by Manuel Lima and in Chapter three of Carr’s book there is a few similarities. In the beginning of Lima’s talk he makes a metaphor to illustrate how simple the mind use to work, having to only commit simple, specific task. In Carr’s book, he takes a different approach in the beginning an discusses how the clock and other tools used to have simple tasks but they now mean so much more. Each person believes the mind has changed into a mind of much knowledge. According to Lima, “the more we know about the brain, the more we think of it as a large music symphony, played by hundreds and thousands of instruments.” Lima says this to create another figure of speech to show the mass knowledge the brain has stored in it.

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  10. Anna Newton
    Professor Kirk
    English 1003
    1 October 1, 2015
    Connecting Carr and Lima
    Carr and Lima agree that the process of intellectual maturation of the human mind changes with the advancement of technology over the years. Carr explains that clocks made humans view time as a valuable concept. Time would not be anything if clocks were not measuring it. Lima, in Ted Talk, really explained how tree diagrams were very important, and helpful for organizational purposes, but as we become more informed and technology grows, there needs to be something bigger. Lima states, “However, nowadays we are really facing new complex, intricate challenges that cannot be understood by simply employing a simple tree diagram.” As technology grows, our language, way of life, and way of thinking changes. Speaking of networks, and how order is important, Lima makes the connection with Carr that clocks and maps are also used for organization.

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  11. Hunter Hebert


    Professor Kirk


    English 1003


    1 October 2015


    Carr and Lima Comparison


    In both chapter 3 of Carr’s The Shallows and Lima’s TED talk A Visual History of Human Knowledge, the idea that advancements in technology over the course of human history have ultimately changed how our minds and daily lives function is discussed. Similar to other chapters in his book, Carr focuses on how advancements such as the map, clock and more specifically the internet have altered our brain’s functioning. Carr states that “Their use has strengthened some neural circuits and weakened others, reinforced certain mental traits while leaving others to fade away.” (48). In agreement to Carr, Lima also discusses how, with the rapid progression of technology, our lives have evolved entirely to accustom to technology’s changes. Lima speaks on how our lives have, over time, expanded from simple to complex, from trees to networks. Today’s world has become intertwined that we have changed how we work, live and communicate entirely all through the use of networks. Lima gives examples of the common business website Perl and terrorism, stating that “Networks really embody notions of decentralization, of interconnectedness, of interdependence.” Putting society today on an equivalent level, completely contrary to how our minds and society have run for thousands of years.

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